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class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-large-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Note pour la modification du ch\u0153ur dans la chapelle du Carmel<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:25px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Origine de la question :<\/strong> Les s\u0153urs du carmel ont fait en mars une demande, exprim\u00e9e par la m\u00e8re prieure : celle de d\u00e9gager l\u2019espace du ch\u0153ur en retrouvant l\u2019usage du maitre autel de la chapelle pour la c\u00e9l\u00e9bration du sacrifice eucharistique. Le ch\u0153ur se trouvait en effet encombr\u00e9 par la taille disproportionn\u00e9e de l\u2019autel en place, qui venait de l\u2019\u00e9glise Notre Dame du Rosaire \u00e0 St Maur, et qui avait donc \u00e9t\u00e9 con\u00e7u pour d\u2019autres proportions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">La chapelle du carmel est bien avant tout la chapelle du monast\u00e8re. &nbsp;Il s\u2019agit en quelques sorte d\u2019une chapelle priv\u00e9e, m\u00eame s\u2019il est heureux et appr\u00e9ci\u00e9 qu\u2019elle puisse \u00eatre ouverte aux fid\u00e8les pour la participation aux offices. R\u00e9pondre \u00e0 la demande des s\u0153urs a l\u2019inconv\u00e9nient pour les fid\u00e8les que le pr\u00eatre ne soit pas tourn\u00e9 vers eux au moment du sacrifice eucharistique. Cela se passe parfois en d\u2019autres \u00e9glises dont le ch\u0153ur est petit et contraint, o\u00f9 l\u2019on met alors l\u2019accent sur le fait que l&rsquo;assembl\u00e9e est, \u00e0 d\u00e9faut de mieux, \u201c orient\u00e9e\u201d, c\u2019est -\u00e0 -dire tourn\u00e9e vers l\u2019est, l\u00e0 o\u00f9 vient le Christ, soleil levant.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:25px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>L\u2019exigu\u00eft\u00e9 actuelle du ch\u0153ur pose objectivement question<\/strong> <strong>pour mettre en \u0153uvre les trois lieux signifiants de la pr\u00e9sence du Seigneur dans le ch\u0153ur <\/strong>: l\u2019autel, l\u2019ambon et le si\u00e8ge de pr\u00e9sidence. &nbsp;L\u2019am\u00e9nagement en place, compte tenu de la taille de l\u2019autel, avait conduit \u00e0 ce que l\u2019ambon soit un simple pupitre plac\u00e9 en arri\u00e8re sur les marches, de fa\u00e7on que tant le lecteur que le pr\u00e9dicateur soient per\u00e7us de tous (des s\u0153urs, comme des fid\u00e8les)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:25px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">S&rsquo;il s\u2019agit de transformer le ch\u0153ur, il convient alors de v\u00e9rifier que cette disposition permette d\u2019honorer les autres \u00e9l\u00e9ments de la r\u00e9forme liturgique issue du Concile Vatican II et de respecter la nature de cet espace liturgique (PGMR n\u00b0288 svts).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:25px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Pour faire suite \u00e0 la demande des s\u0153urs, trois \u00e9l\u00e9ments de la r\u00e9forme liturgique ont \u00e9t\u00e9 pris en consid\u00e9ration :<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:25px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list has-medium-font-size\">\n<li><strong>Un seul autel de c\u00e9l\u00e9bration <\/strong>comme centre de l&rsquo;action de gr\u00e2ce eucharistique.&nbsp; Fixe et bien visible, il facilitera la participation de tous les fid\u00e8les et la constitution de l\u2019assembl\u00e9e liturgique.<strong> &nbsp;<\/strong>&nbsp;Ce sera le ma\u00eetre-autel d\u00e9j\u00e0 pr\u00e9sent.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"has-medium-font-size\"><strong>Un ambon mieux mis en valeur comme lieu de la proclamation de la Parole, <\/strong>comme un lieu fixe qui puisse attirer l\u2019attention des fid\u00e8les. De l\u2019ambon sont proclam\u00e9es les lectures. On peut aussi y prononcer l\u2019hom\u00e9lie et les pri\u00e8res universelles. Pour les fid\u00e8les de l\u2019ext\u00e9rieur, l\u2019ambon au centre du ch\u0153ur, dans l\u2019axe du sanctuaire, convoque l\u2019assembl\u00e9e \u00e0 la docilit\u00e9 \u00e0 la Parole de Dieu avant d&rsquo;\u00eatre conduite \u00e0 la participation au sacrifice eucharistique. Pour les s\u0153urs, l\u2019ambon sera situ\u00e9 pas trop en avant, de telle sorte que le pr\u00e9dicateur puisse facilement se tourner \u00e9galement vers elles.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"has-medium-font-size\"><strong>Un si\u00e8ge de pr\u00e9sidence visible, <\/strong>situ\u00e9 en biais de fa\u00e7on \u00e0 pouvoir s\u2019adresser tant aux s\u0153urs qu\u2019aux autres fid\u00e8les. Cela permettra au pr\u00eatre pr\u00e9sidant la c\u00e9l\u00e9bration d\u2019\u00eatre per\u00e7u en place de pr\u00e9sidence en tant que signe de la pr\u00e9sence du Seigneur et de l\u2019unit\u00e9 de l\u2019assembl\u00e9e convoqu\u00e9e par Lui.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:25px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-large-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Cet am\u00e9nagement du ch\u0153ur, r\u00e9pondant \u00e0 la demande des s\u0153urs, est approuv\u00e9 et accept\u00e9 par Mgr BLANCHET, ayant entendu le Responsable de la Commission dioc\u00e9saine d\u2019art sacr\u00e9.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:25px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><br>Cr\u00e9teil, le 5 juillet 2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:25px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n<nav class=\"is-responsive items-justified-center wp-block-navigation 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